Evey Hammond: Who are you?
V: Who? Who is but the form following the function of what and what I am is a man in a mask.
Evey Hammond: Well I can see that.
V: Of course you can. I'm not questioning your powers of observation I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.
~V for Vendetta
One thing I love about the expat bloggers community is that they take themselves seriously. Frequently, they make for an entertaining discussion, occasionally meaningful, although sadly, most times, they lack the substance to go with the enthusiasm. I’ve long maintained that this has to do with their miserability.
The latest thing was something that had been coming and going for as long as the history of blogging. Fatih poked on people blogging anonymously – in a somewhat accusative manner singling out the expat blogs – and they responded. Greenstump, Unspun, Patung and John Orford all came up with passionate responses.
I personally don’t care whether you use your real name or not. Most times, I’m not even curious.
That being said, it is important to note that when you’re making allegations or presenting opinions, it would be useful to know where you stand (eg. Organizations that you’re associated with, any financial interests you might have, or any other associations you might have with the parties/issues you’re talking about.) In certain subjects, it would be useful to know if you’re at all qualified to make an opinion. Traditional media have disclaimer policies as part of standard journalism ethics. The argument being, readers should know if the authors have any personal interests in having their opinions forwarded to the public.
One would want to point out to Stanley Bing in Fortune magazine who writes with pseudonym and the Economist magazine which attributes no by lines to any piece, even the op-ed pieces, but then again, these guys have the magazine name and credibility to account for their stands.
I could understand Fatih’s irritation in dealing with bloggers who presented themselves as some sort of quasi news service with obvious (and often obnoxious) leanings, and yet hide behind the veil of anonymity (indonesiamatters is a good example). Not that I care much, I think they’re just being a coward.
Readers aren’t dumb. You can always count on them to distinguish quality work and hopefully, to think for themselves if they’re at all reasonable.
Geenstump referred to Orwell in his latest post, himself a pseudonym, just as Voltaire, Lewis Carroll and Mark Twain, nobody even remembered their real names anymore. Edgar Allan Poe, Ambrose Bierce, Stephen King and countless others have all at some point wrote under different names.
In the rarest form of mildly interesting argument, Patung argued that the Federalist Papers were published anonymously – somewhat alluding to the ‘Indonesia is a dangerous place to speak your mind’ argument.
Which I think is complete bollocks. It is one thing to choose to hide your real names. It’s another to make up a Stalinist ghost to account for your cowardice.
Indonesia has one of the most liberal press law in the world (which not without problems in itself, but we’ll get there later). We’re no longer live in opaque Soehartoesque police state and people are free to write whatever they want. For any of you with any experience whatsoever of the press life 20 years ago, then you’d know that life is a whole world of difference these days where freedom of opinion is concerned.
This country leaves a lot to be desired. There are many things to improve and God knows, there’s a whole load of shit so wrong, most of us wouldn’t even know where to start fixing them. Expressing opinions and providing substantial arguments would be a good start in getting a grip for a better place.
But really, old man, you’re hardly Alexander Hamilton and your silly little news collage is hardly even comparable to the Federalist Papers. James Madison and Hamilton were arguing for the necessity of a federal government in their vision for America as a nation, not publishing random snippets of secondary sources in a twisted manipulative opinion to score higher with Google adwords. And well, the papers were published anonymously, but once the polemic began, Hamilton and Madison and others stepped forward to account for their opinions.
I personally don’t care whether you write anonymously or not, so long as you do it well, we’ll read it. Otherwise, well, you know, the internet is full of trolls and jerkoffs like you. It’s the beauty of the Brave New World.
Tuesday, February 19, 2008
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Ace,
You are right, the content quality is the key, if it appeals it will be successful to whatever audience. The reasons for blogging anonymously are wide and varied, just consider your reasons to mine. Some could be fearful, or at least apprehensive, of the state given some on the countries standards and practices, while others guard against the individual, the crazy man who wishes to extract his own justice on what he may deem a wrong. Sometimes it's our need for privacy, also wide and varied, consider the "Monica" factor.
To expect a name, photo and CV seem a little too extreme to prove some sort of credibilty. Not supplying a name/face is also a long way from cowardice too. I think as a general comment, most expats are more prudent, something they bring from their home culture, is it wrong? No. I don't think so. Generally speaking from my experience the general Indonesian population see very little risk attached to any activity (consider child restraints in cars just for one!!), therefore this has carried over to blogging. Is this right/wrong? Neither, this is personal choice for personal reasons and doesn't add or detract from the content, the content is the key.
I understand your ethics comments on journalism and they should certainly apply (conflict of interest etc), to professionals, but lets not kid ourslves here. Blogging is a forum for expression, personal expression and if there is an agenda, even hidden, the readers will decide. This is what it is, a forum, not always factual, not always researched, not always true, but we can decide. I think we need to remember that the blog world mirrors the real world, only a small proportion of blogs push an issue, most want to sell you something, others are harmless boring daily life and thats how is should be.
There are many forums where one you seek the truth have content scrutinized or peer reviewed............ but the blogosphere!
I personally do not fear the state as I'm fairly certain any comment by me will be well below the radar, no issue!! But I will continue to use GJJakarta 'cause it's me and where I am. If you want I can, if I choose, make myself available for judgement.
Just remember you can call me anything, anything at all, except late for dinner. I do love my food
Cheers
GJ
GJ, totally agreeing with you on all points.
the comments on ethics/accountability applies to people who blogs purely as some sort of social commentary/quasi news service, i think they qualifies differently to 'personal blog' such as yours and mine.
as for idiots who would want to require CV and photo for blogging, hmm... i don't even do CVs for work.
Hey T/s..and you reckon my post was confused..still don't know if you were for it or agin it..anyway my whole beef was not about ANON or Not..It was about some twerp who runs a site using other peoples comments and blogs to generate "ad traffic" has the nerve to question others personal ethics..Cowards indeed...
As for your other points each debatable in their own right..but you have confused things..one stage talking about press law then slamming people for equating blogs to mainstream press (a point I agree with but then WTF press law got to do with them). By the way press law didn't do much for Time, FEER, Tempo..but then we is just blogs..so who cares..
Between you and me its not the government or those dudes in balck coats and capes..it's the nutters..and again not me that I am worried about..paranoid or prudent debatable..cowardly that will get you response ..bank on it.
Happy to debate that with anyone "one on one" but still not get my name ..grin..
P.S.. Couldn't help yourself could ya...laugh
PPS..You can't ahve anything against my blog as I seem to remember you told me you would be the first to tell me if you thought it was out of line..did you resign your commission..where's the notice
just one thing: i'm not an expat :P
Oigal, the press law is relevant where it provides the guarantee from the government as to what can the citizen say in public and what would be the consequences of breaking the guarantees. it is very much relevant, even outside the debate of whether blogging equates to mainstream press or not.
All the cases you quoted are libel and civil suits, i could list you thousands of other such cases pending in every states in the US or any other model for free press as you would've choose.
i'd nothing against your site, of course, i only link to the relevant posts.
you're sweet.
Ace - I'm gonna post this here as well (posted it on John Orford's blog)
"Well I know Brandon of TheJavaJive fame has received death threats, even ppl threatening his girlfriend :( And his posts are so ultra-non-controversial!"
This is true. It's been the reason why I toned down the writing aspect of my blog. And yes - I'm very tame with my words and opinions (until you meet me in real life ;) ).
The situations I've been involved in were extremists trying to preach that I've "stolen their women (as in Indonesian w/ bule)" type of thing. I'm not one to cry in the corner so with a small amount of confrontation came the, "I know where you live, I can find you, I'll slice your throat with my (whatever weapon he named), don't think I can't find you - I know you live in _____", etc.
And, yes, kidnapping does happen - even in my area.
There have been two distinct psychos who I'd love to meet face to face.
brandon: yes. You told me this before, and i absolutely agree. I could perfectly understand why people would want to be careful when dealing with crazy people. Especially when it comes to the dear one.
It's a perfectly legitimate reason why one should blog anonymously. It's definitely my reason to adopt a silly name to call myself.
I really have no opinion whether one should do one or the other. I don't really care. I don't think other people should, too. It's for them and themselves only to decide.
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